[CnD] knives and cutting - Re: My thoughts on Recipes on the List

Charles Rivard wee1sman at fidnet.com
Tue Jul 19 23:52:08 CEST 2016

You mentioned that some people suggest using knives that are not as sharp to 
prevent blind people from cutting themselves??  Actually, the opposite is 
true.  If you use a sharp knife, it will more easily cut the desired 
material.  Because less pressure is needed to make the cut, there is less of 
a chance of the knife cutting undesired material such as fingers, because 
the knife will not be forced to do work, and will not slip away from the 
desired track.

The same is true for a power saw.  If it must be forced due to dullness, it 
will more likely kick back..

If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!
-----Original Message----- 
From: Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA) via Cookinginthedark
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 4:14 PM
To: cookinginthedark at acbradio.org
Cc: Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA)
Subject: Re: [CnD] My thoughts on Recipes on the List

Yes, I agree with you Nicole. I have no usable vision but anytime a recipe 
is posted that I'm not quite sure of what the directions are indicating I 
ask someone sighted. I have also asked this list of folks to clarify what is 
indicated in a recipe. I also agree that we live in a sighted world and no 
one is going to make everything perfect for us. I teach independent living 
skills to students who are blind and are in various school districts in our 
state. There are usually sighted VI teachers and parents and sometimes when 
we are doing a lesson that requires cutting it is almost always the sighted 
individuals who will recommend that the students use something not so sharp 
to avoid cutting themselves. I'm always saying that I teach real life and 
the likelihood that they will use the recommended item is extremely slim. Of 
course, I teach them to be careful and we always consider other variables 
but I like this list. I have created a folder of recipes that I want to keep 
and try later. F
or those recipes that I don't like I simply delete them but it doesn't mean 
that someone else on the list may not like the very one that I deleted. I 
say keep 'em coming.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nicole Massey via Cookinginthedark 
[mailto:cookinginthedark at acbradio.org]
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 5:02 PM
To: cookinginthedark at acbradio.org
Cc: Nicole Massey <nyyki at gypsyheir.com>
Subject: [CnD] My thoughts on Recipes on the List

I've been reading the responses, at least the ones I get, (I filter some 
folks here because of their interaction style, so I don't get everything in 
my inbox) and there are a few things that I think might be good to consider.
First, not everyone here is completely blind. Blindness is a wide array of 
visual situations, so what may be completely inaccessible for someone might 
be no problem for another. Are we also expected to account for neuropathy, 
which is a common adjunct to a couple of the most common reasons for later 
onset blindness? If we do then we're going to get very few recipes after all 
the possible factors are accounted for.
We are blind people functioning in a sighted world. This means it's a good 
idea for developing coping mechanisms. If a recipe is completely free of any 
sighted elements that's great, and I support the "Tried and True" label in 
the message subject for those recipes. But we don't live in a world where 
others are going to do things just so we can participate equally, so we have 
to work out or ask to find out what these visual cues mean in terms of time, 
texture, and scent. I make sure to do this whenever I'm posting a recipe 
from one of the cooking sessions I attend once a month. But I also ask the 
chef what "when the juices run clear" means and other useful things like the 
palm test for grilled steaks, as just one example. Learning these skills 
will open up Avast array of recipes for you to use and make you far less 
dependent on assistance from others.
One more thing -- Dale Campbell owns this list. Steve Stewart moderates it. 
And they've been crystal clear in their list rules -- if you've got a 
problem, take it to them. Don't. Post. It. On. The. List. "Maling list cops" 
tend to solve nothing and create more discord themselves. Let the folks who 
run the list handle things, like they've asked us to.

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