[Mm-friends] Windows 8: What It Is Really Like

kelsey trevett trevk007 at gmail.com
Sat Nov 17 23:30:04 GMT 2012

A friend of mine has Supernova with Windows 8.  I went to check 
it out and although Windows 8 is not so accessible with 
Supernova, it still works.  However, I would suggest using NVDA, 
JAWS or Windows Eyes (or Narrator) for a perminent screenreader 
with Windows 8.  Despite the fact that Supernova actually works 
with Windows 8, it is very slow and unreliable and seems to have 
got into the habbit of shutting itself down (Supernova I mean) so 
perhaps Dulphin need to have a look and see what is going on.
The store in Windows 8 is rather accessible however it can mess 
you around a little.  Do note that the apps marked 
`accessibility: no` are not always unaccessible and then again 
the apps marked `accessibility: yes` aren't always accessible.  
So don't take the accessibility into consideration too much.
The start screen works great with the screenreaders mentioned 
previously in this thread and NVDA 2012,3 has incorperated the 
new feature well.
The new Charms are like search boxes and options that can be used 
from within Windows.  They pop out from the side of the currently 
active Window.  This may seem like a bad idea for screenreaders 
as it may not read the charm but there is no need to worry.  It 
still works perfectly.
Narrator has made a large jump from a rather bad piece of 
software to a highly accessible software package.  Instead of the 
old, boaring, unclear voices Microsoft provided previously, two 
new (I think) voices have been included instead: Hazel and Sarah.  
Having one British English and the other American English these 
voices allow users to have a choice of accents and people.  Of 
course the older voices are still available from the internet if 
you prefer them.
Internet Explorer 10 has two different aspects in Windows 8.  
There is a desktop version which is a full version of IE10 whilst 
the version on the start screen is just an app of Internet 
Explorer 10.  The app doesn't include favourites, for those of 
you with low vision, the address bar is on the bottom and some 
other small adjustments.
Outlook is no longer required.  A brand new mail program called 
`mail` is now in Windows 8.  This is highly accessible with a 
list of messages and folders to choose from.  There is also new 
apps for people and messaging.
Windows 8 now has locator tracking along with lots of apps you 
can use with this.  These include weather which appears on your 
start screen telling you the basic forecast without having to 
even enter the app, maps, travel and lots more from the store.
With all the features above and a screenreader (or narrator), 
Windows 8 provides a smooth and simple experience for those blind 
computer users who wish to keep up with the latest technology.
I hope this helps you.

>----- Original Message -----
>From: Chris <christopherh40 at gmail.com
>To: mm-friends at acbradio.org
>Date sent: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:57:54 +0000
>Subject: Re: [Mm-friends] Windows 8: What It Is Really Like

>Hello Kelsey.
>Thanks for the heads up regarding Windows upgrades and settings.
>How did you try it with Supernova? Asking as I read that the 
>version is not supported under Windows 8.
>Glad you like it and have to agree with you regarding 
>There are lots of misconceptions that Windows 8 is designed for 
>touch screen market and therefore is not tailor made to be 
>Please relax folks, keyboard and mouse input is still supported 
and it
>is just as accessible as Windows 7!
>Thanks for sharing once again.  Much appreciated.

>Christopher Hallsworth

>On 17/11/2012 21:36, kelsey trevett wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Last weekend I upgraded to Windows 8 from Vister.  When I found 
out that
>> I didn't have a JAWS licence, I had to download NVDA.  That was 
>> fine until Windows 8 crashed.  I had to send it in.  They said 
>> note of this if you plan to upgrade):
>> When you upgrade from one Windows version to another, you must 
set the
>> old Windows settings to `default`.
>> I didn't do this therefore my PC crashed.
>> Now I have it running again, I think that it is...  amazing!
>> The keystrokes and new environment are extremely accessible with 
>> following screenreaders:
>> NVDA.
>> JAWS (I know this due to the 40 min demo mode).
>> Supernova.
>> Windows Eyes and of course Windows Narrator.  The start screen 
>> great and all the charms are fantastically accessible!
>> This is a good step up Microsoft, keep it up!
>> Cheers,
>> Kelsey
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