[Mm-friends] Windows 8: What It Is Really Like

Chris christopherh40 at gmail.com
Sun Nov 18 13:02:07 GMT 2012

Hello Kelsey.
Well, I have read that an update to Supernova will be coming shortly. 
Yes let's not forget Narrator is now a screen reader in Windows 8.

Christopher Hallsworth

On 17/11/2012 23:31, kelsey trevett wrote:
> ---- Original Message ------
> Subject: Re: [Mm-friends] Windows 8: What It Is Really Like
> A friend of mine has Supernova with Windows 8.  I went to check it out
> and although Windows 8 is not so accessible with Supernova, it still
> works.  However, I would suggest using NVDA, JAWS or Windows Eyes (or
> Narrator) for a perminent screenreader with Windows 8.  Despite the fact
> that Supernova actually works with Windows 8, it is very slow and
> unreliable and seems to have got into the habbit of shutting itself down
> (Supernova I mean) so perhaps Dulphin need to have a look and see what
> is going on.
> The store in Windows 8 is rather accessible however it can mess you
> around a little.  Do note that the apps marked `accessibility: no` are
> not always unaccessible and then again the apps marked `accessibility:
> yes` aren't always accessible. So don't take the accessibility into
> consideration too much.
> The start screen works great with the screenreaders mentioned previously
> in this thread and NVDA 2012,3 has incorperated the new feature well.
> The new Charms are like search boxes and options that can be used from
> within Windows.  They pop out from the side of the currently active
> Window.  This may seem like a bad idea for screenreaders as it may not
> read the charm but there is no need to worry.  It still works perfectly.
> Narrator has made a large jump from a rather bad piece of software to a
> highly accessible software package.  Instead of the old, boaring,
> unclear voices Microsoft provided previously, two new (I think) voices
> have been included instead: Hazel and Sarah. Having one British English
> and the other American English these voices allow users to have a choice
> of accents and people.  Of course the older voices are still available
> from the internet if you prefer them.
> Internet Explorer 10 has two different aspects in Windows 8. There is a
> desktop version which is a full version of IE10 whilst the version on
> the start screen is just an app of Internet Explorer 10.  The app
> doesn't include favourites, for those of you with low vision, the
> address bar is on the bottom and some other small adjustments.
> Outlook is no longer required.  A brand new mail program called `mail`
> is now in Windows 8.  This is highly accessible with a list of messages
> and folders to choose from.  There is also new apps for people and
> messaging.
> Windows 8 now has locator tracking along with lots of apps you can use
> with this.  These include weather which appears on your start screen
> telling you the basic forecast without having to even enter the app,
> maps, travel and lots more from the store.
> With all the features above and a screenreader (or narrator), Windows 8
> provides a smooth and simple experience for those blind computer users
> who wish to keep up with the latest technology.
> I hope this helps you.
> Kelsey
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Chris <christopherh40 at gmail.com
>> To: mm-friends at acbradio.org
>> Date sent: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:57:54 +0000
>> Subject: Re: [Mm-friends] Windows 8: What It Is Really Like
>> Hello Kelsey.
>> Thanks for the heads up regarding Windows upgrades and settings.
>> How did you try it with Supernova? Asking as I read that the
> current
>> version is not supported under Windows 8.
>> Glad you like it and have to agree with you regarding
> accessibility.
>> There are lots of misconceptions that Windows 8 is designed for
> the
>> touch screen market and therefore is not tailor made to be
> accessible.
>> Please relax folks, keyboard and mouse input is still supported
> and it
>> is just as accessible as Windows 7!
>> Thanks for sharing once again.  Much appreciated.
>> Christopher Hallsworth
>> On 17/11/2012 21:36, kelsey trevett wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Last weekend I upgraded to Windows 8 from Vister.  When I found
> out that
>>> I didn't have a JAWS licence, I had to download NVDA.  That was
> working
>>> fine until Windows 8 crashed.  I had to send it in.  They said
> (take
>>> note of this if you plan to upgrade):
>>> When you upgrade from one Windows version to another, you must
> set the
>>> old Windows settings to `default`.
>>> I didn't do this therefore my PC crashed.
>>> Now I have it running again, I think that it is...  amazing!
>>> The keystrokes and new environment are extremely accessible with
> the
>>> following screenreaders:
>>> NVDA.
>>> JAWS (I know this due to the 40 min demo mode).
>>> Supernova.
>>> Windows Eyes and of course Windows Narrator.  The start screen
> works
>>> great and all the charms are fantastically accessible!
>>> This is a good step up Microsoft, keep it up!
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kelsey
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