[Mm-friends] Windows 8: What It Is Really Like

Lynne techlynne46 at gmail.com
Sun Nov 18 16:59:52 GMT 2012


I second these comments.  

I'm looking forward to working with windows 8 but would prefer it on its own
machine rather than the ones I use for productivity at this point.
Lynne

-----Original Message-----
From: mm-friends-bounces at acbradio.org
[mailto:mm-friends-bounces at acbradio.org] On Behalf Of christopher nusbaum
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 11:59 AM
To: mm-friends at acbradio.org
Subject: Re: [Mm-friends] Windows 8: What It Is Really Like

Kelsey,
That's good to know, as it wasn't very good at all in Windows 7. I don't
think I will update to Windows 8 just yet, but I'm glad narrator works
better on that operating system. I hope I get to play with it at some point.

Chris Nusbaum

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 18, 2012, at 8:11 AM, kelsey trevett <trevk007 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've never been too much of a fan of Narrator and still am not but I have
to admit it has taken a giant step on the pad to success.
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Chris <christopherh40 at gmail.com
>> To: mm-friends at acbradio.org
>> Date sent: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:02:07 +0000
>> Subject: Re: [Mm-friends] Windows 8: What It Is Really Like
>
>> Hello Kelsey.
>> Well, I have read that an update to Supernova will be coming
> shortly.
>> Yes let's not forget Narrator is now a screen reader in Windows
> 8.
>
>
>
>> Christopher Hallsworth
>
>> On 17/11/2012 23:31, kelsey trevett wrote:
>
>
>>> ---- Original Message ------
>>> Subject: Re: [Mm-friends] Windows 8: What It Is Really Like
>
>>> A friend of mine has Supernova with Windows 8.  I went to check
> it out
>>> and although Windows 8 is not so accessible with Supernova, it
> still
>>> works.  However, I would suggest using NVDA, JAWS or Windows
> Eyes (or
>>> Narrator) for a perminent screenreader with Windows 8.  Despite
> the fact
>>> that Supernova actually works with Windows 8, it is very slow
> and
>>> unreliable and seems to have got into the habbit of shutting
> itself down
>>> (Supernova I mean) so perhaps Dulphin need to have a look and
> see what
>>> is going on.
>>> The store in Windows 8 is rather accessible however it can mess
> you
>>> around a little.  Do note that the apps marked `accessibility:
> no` are
>>> not always unaccessible and then again the apps marked
> `accessibility:
>>> yes` aren't always accessible.  So don't take the accessibility
> into
>>> consideration too much.
>>> The start screen works great with the screenreaders mentioned
> previously
>>> in this thread and NVDA 2012,3 has incorperated the new feature
> well.
>>> The new Charms are like search boxes and options that can be
> used from
>>> within Windows.  They pop out from the side of the currently
> active
>>> Window.  This may seem like a bad idea for screenreaders as it
> may not
>>> read the charm but there is no need to worry.  It still works
> perfectly.
>>> Narrator has made a large jump from a rather bad piece of
> software to a
>>> highly accessible software package.  Instead of the old,
> boaring,
>>> unclear voices Microsoft provided previously, two new (I think)
> voices
>>> have been included instead: Hazel and Sarah.  Having one British
> English
>>> and the other American English these voices allow users to have
> a choice
>>> of accents and people.  Of course the older voices are still
> available
>>> from the internet if you prefer them.
>>> Internet Explorer 10 has two different aspects in Windows 8.
> There is a
>>> desktop version which is a full version of IE10 whilst the
> version on
>>> the start screen is just an app of Internet Explorer 10.  The
> app
>>> doesn't include favourites, for those of you with low vision,
> the
>>> address bar is on the bottom and some other small adjustments.
>>> Outlook is no longer required.  A brand new mail program called
> `mail`
>>> is now in Windows 8.  This is highly accessible with a list of
> messages
>>> and folders to choose from.  There is also new apps for people
> and
>>> messaging.
>>> Windows 8 now has locator tracking along with lots of apps you
> can use
>>> with this.  These include weather which appears on your start
> screen
>>> telling you the basic forecast without having to even enter the
> app,
>>> maps, travel and lots more from the store.
>>> With all the features above and a screenreader (or narrator),
> Windows 8
>>> provides a smooth and simple experience for those blind computer
> users
>>> who wish to keep up with the latest technology.
>>> I hope this helps you.
>>> Kelsey
>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Chris <christopherh40 at gmail.com
>>>> To: mm-friends at acbradio.org
>>>> Date sent: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:57:54 +0000
>>>> Subject: Re: [Mm-friends] Windows 8: What It Is Really Like
>
>>>> Hello Kelsey.
>>>> Thanks for the heads up regarding Windows upgrades and settings.
>>>> How did you try it with Supernova? Asking as I read that the
>>> current
>>>> version is not supported under Windows 8.
>>>> Glad you like it and have to agree with you regarding
>>> accessibility.
>>>> There are lots of misconceptions that Windows 8 is designed for
>>> the
>>>> touch screen market and therefore is not tailor made to be
>>> accessible.
>>>> Please relax folks, keyboard and mouse input is still supported
>>> and it
>>>> is just as accessible as Windows 7!
>>>> Thanks for sharing once again.  Much appreciated.
>
>
>
>>>> Christopher Hallsworth
>
>>>> On 17/11/2012 21:36, kelsey trevett wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Last weekend I upgraded to Windows 8 from Vister.  When I found
>>> out that
>>>>> I didn't have a JAWS licence, I had to download NVDA.  That was
>>> working
>>>>> fine until Windows 8 crashed.  I had to send it in.  They said
>>> (take
>>>>> note of this if you plan to upgrade):
>>>>> When you upgrade from one Windows version to another, you must
>>> set the
>>>>> old Windows settings to `default`.
>>>>> I didn't do this therefore my PC crashed.
>>>>> Now I have it running again, I think that it is...  amazing!
>>>>> The keystrokes and new environment are extremely accessible with
>>> the
>>>>> following screenreaders:
>>>>> NVDA.
>>>>> JAWS (I know this due to the 40 min demo mode).
>>>>> Supernova.
>>>>> Windows Eyes and of course Windows Narrator.  The start screen
>>> works
>>>>> great and all the charms are fantastically accessible!
>>>>> This is a good step up Microsoft, keep it up!
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Kelsey
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